Sam Evans-Brown: And when we talk about subspecies this actually leads to to an interesting tangent which is that the field of biology recently has been sort of revolutionized by the use of DNA to determine what subspecies are. It's completely possible that it may have spent time in New Hampshire and went undetected but had it stayed in the area ultimately it would have been detected over time. And I think this is a really interesting story for a couple of reasons one is that it proves what Pat was saying which that basically from New York state where its traces was really picked up on a game camera around Lake George all the way down to Connecticut there was numerous. Which goes back to the Connecticut Connecticut cat and what not. Well let's talk a little bit about that. The number 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 so promised a discussion about conspiracy theories. Mountain lions when they show up they leave evidence. The unheralded hero of Apollo John Hubble the man who knew the way to the moon. She favors plaid shirts, green Dickies work pants, and hiking boots, and she chided me for shaking her hand too gently. Love hearing these stories. We strolled across the tavern parking lot and ducked into the forest, where Ottmann maintains a portion of his $15,000 worth of wildlife recording equipment (hes had no luck capturing a cougar on camera, though, despite more than a decade of trying). In certain situations, the similarities in the silhouette are remarkable. The engineers Dan Colgan our senior producer is Allan Grimm. No I saw a camel. On the idea of bear hunting in Connecticut. Peter Biello: And then it ran away okay. McCarter sent a sample to Dr. George Amato of the Wildlife Conservation Society in New York and Dr. Melanie Culver of the University of Maryland. On one side, there are those (as represented here by Sue Morse, Kim Royar, and Christopher Spatz, along with a number of others I spoke with) who contend that the lack of verifiable evidence is proof that the animals are not here. If you need assistance, please contact the Division of Fisheries and Wildlife. Phone number 1 800. A mountain lion can weigh well over 150 pounds, while a bobcat might weigh up to 35 pounds and reach 45 inches (tip of nose to end of tail); a coyote 50 pounds and 53 inches; or a lynx 35 pounds and 40 inches. Here's why reports are so tough to prove mass.gov/doc/mountain-lions-in-massachusetts-distinguishing-fiction-from-the-facts/download, There are 69 invasive plant species in Massachusetts. Residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. Fear is actually one of the most powerful ecological forces we know, and its a really important management tool., According to Laundre, the problems caused by a relatively fear-free ecosystem are not always obvious, in part because they can take decades to fully manifest. Morse founded Keeping Track in the belief that getting citizens interested and engaged in wildlife will have the knock-on effect of getting them interested and engaged in how land-use decisions affect wild populationsand might provide the impetus for conservation efforts. I've seen him in the woods and that was not a bobcat but I was looking at. You wouldnt shake hands with a man like that, she said, and though she was smiling I could tell she was serious. The report came in from a conservation officer. It used to be that a bear would go into a house when someone wasnt home. Hawley: Yeah. In April 1997, experienced tracker John McCarter found scat near a beaver carcass at the Quabbin Reservation. Anytime at any HP broad dot org or subscribe to our podcast search Apple podcasts Google Play or stitcher for an HP bar exchange. This is part of the cougar business. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal. What do you think that. I had a resident in New Hampshire tell me a story of a mountain lion in the 1960s where a person who would come summer in New Hampshire and then live in a different part of the country in the winter had a trailer that was housing his mount line. They absolutely do. She served as the Senior Producer for 'The Colin McEnroe Show' for several years before stepping down in 2021 and returning to her previous career as a registered nurse. It was his great coolness and daring (either that, or fear) that enabled Crowell to shoot the animal at a distance of one rod only (roughly 16 feet), first hitting it in the leg with his shotgun, then dispatching it with a bullet to the head from a borrowed rifle. And boy it was big it had to be at least 200 pounds the thing was you and and it just made a little bit of noise and it was gone. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. Patrick Tate: It's wow interesting that you brought this up because I've had people report I saw cardamom. So one thing that I find fascinating about this Connecticut cat was six months between the New York situation where they found evidence of it too when it was hit by a motor vehicle. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. It was not a bobcat. But but I've also seen it cited the opposite way that look they're very secretive. Watch. So you know until I found those two scats I didn't think that mountain lions were here in the east. McEnroe: Scientifically, this is a case where absence of evidence is kind of evidence of absence, right? But one day. While State Denies Mtn Lions are in NH, Numerous Sightings Say Otherwise. It lowers the population in a way thats not going to affect the long-term population. I have learned one thing in my career, and thats to never say never, she said. Prior to becoming a reporter, he was the founding producer of Connecticut Public Radio's The Colin McEnroe Show, which began in 2009. And I saw you cat about four feet long from nose to tail come across from the water across the road and just leap over a six foot perimeter fence in a single bound. Put bluntly, Morse does not believe that New England is home to cougars. As a carnivore biologist, Hawley says he would love it if mountain lions were here. We'll also hear your stories if you have them again. Re (2): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct - By Ryan January 31, 2016 at 11:16:51 PM. Adult males can be around 8 feet in length and weigh between 130 and 150 pounds, while adult females can be 7 feet long and weigh between 65 and 90 pounds. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. Fish and Wildlife Service unofficially declared the Eastern cougar extinct. You treat it as if it's a sincere situation. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. We'll hear from her periodically through the show. I also had the vague notion that when it comes to cougars, people tend to sort themselves into one of three camps. hen I accepted the assignment to write about my quest to uncover the truth regarding the existence of cougars in New England, I had little idea what I was agreeing to. Caller: I got home to my wife that a gene that you should have seen the cat. Part of this belief is rooted in his journalistic experience, which across the decades has cultivated his nose for sincerity. We'd be inundated with scouts in the past when newspaper articles have been written about DNA and scouts. On the other side, there are those (as represented here by Bill Betty and Bo Ottmann, along with a number of others I spoke with) who say the overwhelming quantity of anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. Its distinctive featurethe one that sets it apart from other North American wild catsis its tail, which is thick and often as long as its body. She is renowned for tracking. So I just throwing that out there it's interesting. Thank you. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. We'd love to have you in the queue. Some Suspects in On-Going Catamount Investigation It may not surprise you to learn that I was quite intrigued by this third group. McEnroe: It is an uphill challenge. It's one piece that he wrote, that I have used in discussing the possibility of hard-to-believe sightings and I quote, People are always hopeful that what they have seen is something unusual, rather than just common and mundane.. Betty folded his arms across his chest, where they rose and fell and rose again with his breathing. New England Mountain Lion Sightings - YouTube Right. Sam Evans-Brown: Well this might be a good moment to talk about hoaxes. By now, I knew the answer to that one. And they asked me about the tail which I just did not remember that tail out of that whole experience. Some of the reports that I looked into that were actually on file at the local fish and game office were even from people who did not live locally. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof. I mean I that said I've lived out west for nine years. (Dont use my name as others think Im crazy). Which which I think Pat and I have both experienced. And you know it's rather interesting because certainly there are those you as a case of mistaken identity or they wanted to see something that perhaps they actually didn't. It is a low, sprawling plant with small 1.4-inch scarlet flowers. It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. was declared extinct in 2011. Peter Biello: So let's say Rick that it was confirmed that there that there are mountain lines here in New Hampshire. So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. Please limit your input to 500 characters. If you would like to continue helping us improve Mass.gov, join our user panel to test new features for the site. Caller: It had to be a mountain lion convinced I was about 30. Wildlife biologist breaks down mountain lion sightings in CT The scientific name for the catamount is Puma concolor. You know interactions are pretty unusual. And to anyone listening I would just say you know fishing game who wants proof right. So I reached down to grab the camera and looked back and like a ghost it's gone. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. It's got a a smudge of black and bobcats and links just don't have that we don't have any other cards. Peter Biello: The number is 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Caller: Are probably. Re (1): Bobcats in Feeding Hills - By weather01089 October 6, 2014 at 06:44:20 PM. So long as the tails there, that is. Now and then MassWildlife gets a report with a photo of a mountain lion. Listeners give us a call if you'd like. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. This is the longest documented travel distance of a mountain lion. Get up-to-the-minute news sent straight to your device. A:I have hoped to see a big cat, that is bigger than a bobcat, since NatureWatch began getting reports in the 1980s. Many people do not realize how large a grown Bobcat is. Pat humans people leave deer carcasses up in trees. for some excitement. But my experience was that the majority of these accounts could not be taken lightly. Patrick Tate: I would say well when social media first started they picked up the hoaxes became much more prevalent in the last four or five years hoaxes have died down completely. It was some sort of a Lion Mountain Lion animal. In March 2011, DCR forester Steve Ward photographed a track trail in the snow near the Gate 8 boat launch area of Quabbin Reservoir. Information that weed family automotive dot com sunny for today high temperatures low to mid 80s clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s tomorrow sunny highs in the upper 80s. You dont even have to go out and look for it.. of Energy & Environmental Protection. There have been only two caseswhere evidence supports the presence of a mountain lion in Massachusetts. If so that's for us as an agency. So give us a call now. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. Coyotes have also been mistaken for Mountain Lions. Hed encouraged me to keep my eyes open for deer carcasses cached in the trees (according to Ottmann, cougars are fantastic climbers and are known to stash their kills high in trees), but I saw only leaf-bare branches. And maybe it's a no holds barred nostalgia for a better world a wild or Fuller world not a world that's constrained by our boundaries and our taxes and our highways. Fish and Game looked into the labs to have them confirm the information in the reports which the labs did not. Each person had their own copy and now it was identify the trees the species of tree matched. And why would they what. And sometimes I've seen pictures of those where it's the question is What is that is that a bobcat. Growing up in northern Vermont, Id heard stories of sightings, though always a few steps removed from the tellersomebodys cousin had seen a cougar cross the road on their way home from deer camp up in Canaan (or was it Coventry? Rick van de Poll: Oh yeah absolutely. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. Peter Biello: Ok. In 2011, genetic testing confirmed that a mountain lion originated in South Dakota and traveled more than 1,500 miles before being struck by a car on the Merritt Parkway, according to Reuters. There's just one subspecies of North American mountain lion. Oh you saw him online. Peter Biello: Nice to be here. New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board, Re(1): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, Re(2): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, Re(3): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, Re(4): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, Re(5): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, didnt win the pwrball. Peter Biello: Well John thanks very much for the story really appreciate it. Yeah I did. If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. He knew it was only a matter of time. What to know about unconfirmed mountain lion sightings in CT The females disperse a shorter range and once they find a vacant home range they stay in that location and live there. We actually have the largest subspecies of bobcat in the northern part of our state which they can get up to 40 and over 40 pounds which looks like an 80 pound the animal to visually and quite large.
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