So, here is a more detailed experience of what just the thyroidectomy was like. Furthermore, last night, I was awoken at 3 am by pain in my neck. I also covered the furniture with sheets and cleaned up with soap and water and a dry towel everyday. I really hope you get the feeling that post-op will take good care of you. I chose the doctor that did 350 to 500 thyroidectomies per year (he was also the doctor who didn't use the larynegal nerve monitor). Although, I highly recommend going somewhere where you can be alone (not a hotel). Mostly because this disease caused a huge disruption in my life. I knew something was wrong last June 2014 talked to my doc about a strange pain in my neck. Epub 2021 Jun 1. Keywords: Straining on the toilet not only can rip the surgical site, it can cause you to stroke out. I have friends that "had a friend that went through this and they are just fine". The transfer team asked me to put the bair paws gown back on and I said no it was too hot. That was attributed the nodules and the cancer. Argue with people or agree with people, agree to disagree if that's what it takes to get you through this. Although, I have a lot of support from my family and friends, I am struggling with inexplicable sadness. Medicine (Baltimore). J Minim Access Surg. May 4, 2015 7:40 PM. I go back to my Drs office for results next week and am doing my best trying to stay away from my sweet family and dog. I have been on Levothyroxine 125 to 150 for 2.5 weeks and am starting to feel better from Hypothyroid symptoms. That's a nice way of saying they put it in a neck wrinkle. The nurse offered me some jello, and that wasn't quite as bad as the water, but it was no picnic either. I was there a short time where I met briefly with a surgical nurse, my anesthesiologist, and my surgeon. was it there all along? That's not what happened. So, I expected the experience to be a bit like an assembly line. Below are general instructions for patients who have had thyroid or parathyroid surgery. The type of pain that you will feel greatly depends on the kind of surgery you've had. A few days later she called again and said that my Vitamin D is also very low and I would have to have another appointment with my PCM to get high dose Vitamin D pills. After 7 days I went for my body scan. There they did a strep test (I'd had a sore throat off and on for a year) and a ct scan. I'm normally an extremely social individual that loves living life to the fullest and experiencing the best that it has to offer. Prior to RAI some surgeons recommend T4 and Thyrogen (which is what my surgeon did at our pre-op visit) and some recommend T3 temporarily and going hypo. The quiet house has really helped me get better quickly. 2019 Aug 8;49(4):1185-1191. doi: 10.3906/sag-1812-55. To analyze the effect of neck stretching exercises, following a total thyroidectomy, on reducing neck pain and disability. Trust me they are, but I worked it out. NSAIDs and duloxetine was not effective for these symptoms. Tuesday morning I saw my surgeon who removed a huge bandage from my neck. So the procedure was to do partial thyroidectomy, and biopsy during surgery, then removed rest if cancerous. HHS Vulnerability Disclosure, Help Older posts I saw explain that because the facial nerve were cut and will take few weeks to months to heal. He also said that the CT scans looks real good and would tell me more in December time frame. I have felt 100% on my medicine (and I've been all over the TSH scale). So, that worked out OK. They redid the area around my neck for about 10 more minutes (this is slightly unnerving). He got out the floor roll to start working on my leg muscle as well man that hurts. She also told me that if I need another surgery to fix the problem that there is a 10% chance I will lose all hearing in that ear, and being that it is my better ear I seriously hope I dont need to get surgery. Crepey skin on neck after thyroidectomy: Will it go away on it's own? Im a pinch over 2 years post thyroidectomy for what turned out to be a couple small areas of PTC. Not sure what my TSH read at those doses, but I see my oncologist in a few weeks and am requesting a copy of my medical records should be able to figure out what my levels were with each by comparing them to the dates of prescriptions. Lots of people on here talk about how awful having a thyroid replacement medicine is, and that no one ever feels totally ok on it. Both doctors answered every question openly and forthright. Our plan had been for him to get a hotel room to use as a day room while I was in surgery and to use it if they released me way late in the evening. This was nice because I now had an idea of the surroundings I would be in when I woke up from surgery. I was in an intense state of fear at this point after calming down somewhat in the original hospital room. I had a softball size tumor and didn't even know it was there, it makes me angry that I didn't, after It was pointed out to me I could actually palm the mass as I swallowed. From there I went my 2nd physical therapy appointment, I am getting more movement in my knee and overall the pain is less, He also suggested some things I could try to help my balance while I was waiting for vestibular training to be fully approved by Tricare and setup. NEVER do this! I know this is long but if you are new to this, maybe hearing my story will be helpful. I am not sure if TMJ or other dental problem vs the salivary glands. Twenty-eight patients who had undergone thyroidectomy and 28 healthy . Have a wonderful holiday season and thank you again so much to this board for existing. Also put me on the We fit balance game and I completed it on the 3rd try. The problems I have had with the radiation therapy metallic salty taste in mouth and constant dry mouth. Facial and Jaw pain - Thyroid cancer - Inspire Getting up and moving was huge - really helped shake off the remaining cobwebs from the anesthesia. Hi! Two weeks ago I wrote a post about my extreme anxiety preparing for a total thyroidectomy and central neck dissection. Just seems like order of operations has been a complete mess. 2022 Oct-Dec;18(4):641-642. doi: 10.4103/jmas.jmas_174_21. I know the levels that I'm supposed to maintain at are different from those of normal people with a thyroid and no cancer history. I am hoping against hope that I can build my endurance with regular exercise. He took a look at me, said everything looked great and that he was writing a discharge order for me. I had a Total Thyroidectomy around 9 weeks ago for FVPTC, then they ran me hypothyroid for 6 weeks and pushed TSH over 100, then did my RAI 3 weeks ago. FOIA Learned its horizontal vertigo or thats what Co. (my torturerphysical theraphist) said. And mostly, please, pass it forward after you have your surgery. After a thyroid lobectomy, you'll need to have your thyroid hormone levels checked and will be prescribed a thyroid hormone replacement, if needed. Those are the same medications they give you for a colonoscopy. I am in the normal range and will worry about that in December time frame. The https:// ensures that you are connecting to the I got about half a sip down and the other half went all over my hospital gown. Once they do this will it be possible to do strenuous exercise (Boxing / Sprinting etc ) or could that affect my heart? For this is a forever journey I am on! Stabbing neck pains after RAI - Thyroid cancer - Inspire Thorsen RT, Dssing H, Bonnema SJ, Brix TH, Godballe C, Sorensen JR. World J Surg. Get the latest news and education delivered to your inbox, Receive an email when new articles are posted on, Please provide your email address to receive an email when new articles are posted on. Mine was 10-11 hours and I came out with a scar in the shape of a "U" that goes from ear to ear. The surgery went well and the next day I was released from the hospital to recover. If they kept me overnight, the plan had always been for him to go home for the night. Ask to be checked with a Geiger counter to determine when you are safe to be around your family. I was also immediately able to have near full use of my voice, which told me that my larangeal nerves were ok - big relief. It has become shrill and high-pitched. None for cancer, but enough to make me a believer in getting a second opinion. At 18 days post surgery the throat pain flares up only if I over use my voice. Most people start to feel recovered in 10 to 14 days. Calcium level 1 day post TT dropped a bit but so far no tingling sensation on the cheeks / jaw, fingers or around my lips, but i'll know more about after my next blood work in a couple of weeks. The scar is 5cm long and as of now looks good. On May 17th I went to Bangor clinic for a update with my primary care provider and we discussed things like my recovery plan and basically made sure that they had a full picture of my current health. 8600 Rockville Pike I quickly ordered mac and cheese and mashed potatoes. So, I was really getting insistent that he go home. Also we will have to delay the sleep Apnea testing till after I get my vestibular training done and I can sleep on my back and side. So, seriously, take the stool softener. Exercise therapy for office workers with nonspecific neck pain: a systematic review. Facial and Jaw pain. As an example, one surgeon said he wouldn't do the surgery without intraoperative nerve monitoring of the recurrent larynegal nerve and the other said he thinks it's a waste of time to use the nerve monitor. I had compression stockings on that kept me up, noise like crazy in the ICU, nurses and doctors coming in, 2 IV (one in each arm), and a blood pressure monitor going off every hour. On April 19th I started on the low iodine diet and stopped taking Cytomel in preparation for Radioactive Iodine treatment. Horner's syndrome may be unexpected complication after - Healio I was under a great deal of stress and thought that was why I gained so much weight so quickly. I kind of learned quickly to tilt my chin toward my chest as I swallowed to lessen the pain and actually got the four HIV and a couple of other pills down. At the end of the first week, the NPDS scores (mean [SD] = 8.82 [12.23] vs. 30.28 [12.09]), neck sensitivity scores (median [IR] = 0 [.75] vs. 2.00 [4.0]) and pain levels with neck movements (median [IR] = 0 [2.0] vs. 3.5 [5.75]) of the stretching exercise group were significantly lower than those of the control group. The effects of the stretching exercises on the participants' neck pain and disability, neck sensitivity, pain with neck movements as well as on wound healing, were evaluated at the end of the first week and at 1 month following surgery. 2003 May 21;289(19):2509-16. doi: 10.1001/jama.289.19.2509. Epub 2022 May 30. This is very long and is intended for people new to the group who haven't had surgery yet. I'm excited to BE that friend but as of right now I'm still in the middle- waiting for test results and piles of bills. For those that are getting ready to have this surgery I would never say "don't be scared," I would just say let the fear come like you are going skydiving and know that it will be over soon and things will start getting much better. I was immediately put on levothyroxin and sent home. I then asked if I could have something more substantial and the doctor came in and looked at my plate (which looked like an animal had been fed at the zoo) and said I could have whatever I wanted. A later CT scan also showed some suspicious pulmonary nodules in the lungs. So not going to lie, recovery from that absolutely sucked for about 10 days - lots of dizziness, tiredness, general throat and neck pain and uncomfortableness - and I didn't get my drains out for 2 weeks post surgery, which was another great addition to such an extensive surgery. disability; neck pain; neck stretching exercises; thyroidectomy. An MRI of my neck (ordered by orthopedic due to neck pain) showed not only several herniated bulging discs- but a mass on my right thyroid gland. The day of surgery I was scheduled for 2pm arrival and a 4pm surgery as an outpatient. So many people just blindly trust anyone with an 'MD' in their title, but call people you know who have gone through it, meet with multiple different doctors, make sure your surgeon does hundreds of these a year. I remember my throat hurting pretty badly. Another thing I get to consider is that when I get dizzy my knees tense up and start hurting a lot more so now that I am doing the Vestibular training I will be having more knee/leg pains. I called the office to verify that was correct and was told it was. I know its a bit silly but I am kind of nervous of attending the cancer survivor group. 2. However, the location on the neck minimizes the likelihood of keloids. It came back normal non cancerous. Once your thyroid is removed you are now . Complementary and alternative therapies for back pain II. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I will admit it defiantly made me dizzy but I was able to safely drive to work afterwards. I didn't overly strain, but I did have one day where the pain meds must have overwhelmed the stool softener and I pushed a little harder than I think I should have. You will experience some discomfort at the incision site as well as a raw or sore throat from the breathing tube that . My wife was with me. The morning after your surgery, you can take a shower and allow water and mild soap to run over your wound. Jon. Stabbing neck pain!!! - Thyroid cancer - Inspire 5 May 2011 1 year out from treatment (for radiation) The combination with of nortriptyline 10 mg per day and . RAI was the next thing that worried me, but once again, I found that it was overly emphasized online. Sihawong R, Janwantanakul P, Sitthipornvorakul E, Pensri P. J Manipulative Physiol Ther. My LMT said I can thank the virus. Next for me is RAI and then WBS. I was told that frequently they run early. Before The question is has anyone had these symptoms: burning pain, dizzy, swelling post op 3 weeks ? They say it looks bigger than it is because its inflamed from surgery and RAI it is 2x1x1 CM in both beds, cancer was only on right. Both surgeons recommended almost the exact same treatment plan. It sucks a bit, but plenty of people have totally fine experiences with no long term complications. Removing all or most of the thyroid (thyroidectomy). Through the Fall I kept feeling the pain in my neck and again spoke to my primary care doc. Mentally I feel like I have cleared this massive hurdle. This is because the symptoms are related to the dispersion of the nerves in the area of the surgery. You should not lift any heavy objects for about 2 weeks after your operation to avoid any strain on your neck. My surgeon wouldn't commit to either putting in or not putting in a JP drain prior to surgery, but he did say he doesn't use them as often as other surgeons. The Impact of Post-Thyroidectomy Neck Stretching Exercises on Neck Discomfort, Pressure Symptoms, Voice and Quality of Life: A Randomized Controlled Trial. They said the scar from my thyroid surgery is mostly healed and looking good and that we can start planning the 2nd ear surgery. Now that I have my Vestibular training times setup I hopefully will be able to schedule Physical therapy for my knees without conflicts. They'd said I might not remember being wheeled into surgery, but I remember the trip into the OR and looking around the OR. Hi, 2022 Feb;15(1):24-48. doi: 10.21053/ceo.2021.00633. Due to this, I strugelled for over 2 weeks with swallowing. In general, thyroid surgery is well tolerated and the vast majority of patients will have a smooth recovery. During RAI (I had some lympnodes 1 or 2 not 100% sure) take up Iodine, plus had some small growth in thyroid bed which may be non cancerous. The Nutritionist who gives this seminar said she would check through my medical record to make sure my levels were normal and if she couldnt find all the blood tests she would order them so I could get my nutrition balanced. Disclaimer. Stay alone in a separate house if you are able for RAI(it really is hard to keep your distance). I was also very coherent and cognitively feeling much better. Seriously, I'd managed to get half a sip of water down in what was the most painful swallow I'd ever experienced and I now had to take half a dozen HIV antiretroviral and other pills. I received a lot of encouraging feedback from many people on this site and would like to thank them all again. Again, my surgeon only says it's normal with minimal to no explanation whatsoever. It is found in the front lower part of your neck. I sound much better now but I do speech therapy constantly to improve strength (I'm a speech path so I knew what I needed to do), dry needling and physical therapy on my neck. Do they usually do a full neck ultrasound before TT? When comparing neck pain and disability scale (NPDS) scores, neck sensitivity and pain with neck movement before thyroidectomy, after 1 week and after 1-month time-points, it was found that patients experienced significantly less pain and disability in the stretching exercise group than the control group (p < .001). The patient was diagnosed with Horners syndrome, a disorder characterized by pupil constriction, eyelid drooping, eye protrusion and lack of sweating on one side of the face caused by damage of the ipsilateral cervical sympathetic chain. Do not scrub the wound or put pressure on it with high pressure water or your fingers. I went home around noon the next day and the hour long drive home wasn't that bad. Accessibility Within 2 hours I got up to use the restroom and asked if I could take a couple laps around the ICU, which the nurse allowed me to do by attaching a portable monitor to a wheelchair that I pushed. I was diagnosed with a large thyroid mass Dec 2009 Bremerton Naval Hospital in Jan 2010 they determined the mass was follicular cells but could not determine by fine needle aspiration if it was cancerous or not but since it was making it hard to breath they decided to operate to remove my right side thyroid this happened on Feb 22 2010. Objective: I underwent a thyroidectomy and extensive bilateral neck dissection two years ago. I got 57mci of RAI. Typically thyroidectomies take about 3hours and you come out with a cute little 3in scar. She was confident that these findings appeared after her thyroid surgery. I did not want to be anywhere around my kids or clients. The stretching exercise group learned the neck stretching exercises immediately after total thyroidectomy. She stated that they would not give me a definite Clean till I am 1 year out of radiation treatment. Dr H. thinks everything is looking good and she retires on the 19th of Aug. Suffice to say, I was a total and complete mess. It's typically worse the day after surgery and quickly begins to get better. No idea why this report was 2cm and ultrasound showed 3cm. Meeting went good although it was just me S. Cheryl and the leader of the group this time normally they have a few others. When I got home around 2pm Tuesday I had never felt more comfortable in my house. In the morning they brought me what I asked for for breakfast (Cherios, yogurt, and apple juice). The PubMed wordmark and PubMed logo are registered trademarks of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). Days to Celebrate HI All, Surgery took 6.5 hours and everything went well. I'm dizzy like I'm drunk and nauseated. Things seem better and worse at the same time. On my own, I wonder about muscle weakness after that surgery. Thyroid Surgery Recovery, Side Effects, and Complications - Verywell Health I'm not sure if this is related with the numb feeling I'm having. On the 16th of September I star my physical therapy, I have defiantly noticed that during and for the next few hours after physical therapy my knees hurt a lot more as expected for the next 4 or so days the pain is greatly reduced and I can walk better. But, you could tell pre-op was used to people popping in for a brief stay and then being whisked off to surgery. Total Thyroidectomy - What You Need to Know - Drugs.com Cleanse the incision area the day after surgery. Korean Society of Laryngology, Phoniatrics and Logopedics Guideline Task Force, et al. Sent us home & said if it happens again that we need to see the ent in cleveland. I was set up with an appointment the Friday before my Tuesday surgery to meet with the hospital for pre-op which included the anesthesiology department physician's assistant, blood work, a urine sample, a chest x-ray, height, weight, EKG and maybe a few test I'm not remembering right now. Neck swelling after thyroidectomy: not always a haematoma 6) Went hypo for 6 weeks (didn't even understand what that meant until I physically got to experience it), fought to get RAI pushed earlier when TSH hit 97.99 and I had constant migraines, and no one ever mentioned LID (but I believe that didn't end up being so bad - as I did LID anyway after reading online 5 days prior and before that I was low enough naturally). The aim of this study was to analyse the long-term musculoskeletal disorders in TC patients who had undergone thyroidectomy. However, since my surgery, I've been hit with insomnia. After surgery, you can expect some pain as your body heals. She felt my neck and again felt nothing and sent me on my way. By the time my room was ready I had eaten two cups of ice chips and was extremely thirsty. [4] I was sent to the ICU (I knew I would be going there) because the surgeon wanted me to have better nurse ratios overnight. 2005 Jun;29(6):775-9. doi: 10.1007/s00268-005-7722-3. The only problem I had with the surgery was hiccups that lasted about 10 days, I was told this was due to the tube they put down your throat during anesthesia. On the 4th of May 2010 I was back at Madigan for a radiation count on my thyroid followed by my second uptake dose of radiation (RI-123 UPTAKE) 2.8 mCi I-123 t1/2= 13.2 hours This was a process of 1 10 min neck scan followed by a 40 min full body scan and then a follow-up 10 min scan for an area that wasnt clear on the first scan (guess I moved too much) but I was informed by the tech unofficially that the scans looked clean. If you look it up on the Internet it is supposed to be hooked up to an external temperature air conditioning unit. Answer: Skin laxity after thyroid surgery. An observational case-control study was carried out. 29th of July. The surgery went well but do to low calcium and magnesium levels (parathyroid(s) where not fully functioning) I was kept in the hospital for 2 days to ensure my parathyroids were maintaining proper levels. The visit included an ultra sound and 6 needles biopsy of the mass. A randomized controlled trial was conducted. On October 4th I had my first appointment with Su., the nutritionist, and she told me that looking at what lab results were in the system that my calcium, magnesium and potassium are all low. RAI was determined to be unnecessary, though I see my oncologist every 3 months (had one scare where some of my lymph nodes blew up necessitating a CAT scan last year), my endocrinologist every 6 months, and have my neck ultrasounded every 6 months. I know part of it is because of my cats needing cuddles at 3 am, but I was wondering if anyone else had this problem. I met with two different surgeons. I later saw a special on TV (I don't remember if it was Dateline NBC or Front Line PBS) about hospitals getting more aggressive in seeking payments up front. I couldn't even have water easily without aspiration/choking. Hi! Parathyroidectomy cures almost all cases of primary hyperparathyroidism and returns blood calcium levels to a healthy range. 4) They plan to suppress my TSH which will make me Hyperthyroid. Ear surgery went well on the 19th I started getting my hiccups and those lasted 7 days I did manage to get an ear infection on Friday Aug 20 and by Sunday evening I was at max allowed pain meds and it wasnt helping. 2010 Oct;(194):1-764. I also would like to provide a write-up of my experiences with the surgery, as others that did so were extremely helpful for me. Simply put, for me, the only option was the traditional open neck procedure; but, I felt better knowing I'd exhausted that possibility. Are you sure you want to block this member? They gave me a pill and I drove to a cabin in the mts. Your thyroid gland makes hormones that control your metabolism, body temperature, and heart rate. I really looked into doing the surgery using the daVinci robot with the incision in the arm pit not on the neck. I was told I would be having surgery in mid-October and it was not able to be scheduled until November 23. By Friday morning I got up at 7:15 a.m. and stood in line in 32 degree weather for some Goose Island Bourbon County, went to lunch and ate a cheeseburger. Its been almost three months since the surgery, I have no problem in swallowing anymore and my voice is better but not the same. He is now also seeing a doctor at cleveland clinic who specializes in thyroid cancer. While I was taking 150 mcg/day, I was feeling quite good but she said my tsh didn't need to be repressed that much, that I was borderline hyperthyroid, and cut me back to 125, and then 115 (at which point I felt rather garbagey, started struggling with depression, muscle pain and some fatigue). That caused the pain in my throat to come back stronger for a day or so. However, such measures have not been evaluated by randomized controlled trial . It's been just over two weeks since my thyroidectomy. God, family, friends and prayer are what got me through these last 7 months with thyroid cancer. I do remember them asking me a few times if I was in pain and giving me more pain medication. Source: Images courtesy of Stephanie L. Lee, MD, PhD, ECNU. I had many thyroid nodules but the largest,cancerous one was 3.8 cm. Reading other posts I feel a little discouraged that this feeling of fatigue is so common . A month later I had a TT and my tonsils out due to a chronic sore throat. The best part about it was I was prepared for a great deal of pain and I would characterize my condition as "mild discomfort," never going over "2 or 3" on the "pain scale." I resumed my mental health appointments with Dr E. on the 24th of May. I know my body and disagree. The reasons for that are in this post https://www.inspire.com/groups/thyca-thyroid-cancer-survivors-association/discussion/its-100-for-sure-cancer-pathology-report-back/ Another trip to Madigan with another appointment with ENT at Madigan. Ylinen J, Takala EP, Nyknen M, Hkkinen A, Mlki E, Pohjolainen T, Karppi SL, Kautiainen H, Airaksinen O. JAMA. I reminded them I was 50 miles away, and they said to keep my phone with me. 3) Met with Surgeon and he said, the mass on right was big enough that it needs to come out weather cancer or not . so according to the ultrasound write up surrounding lyphnodes were normal but no film existed. The first time I had RAI I had absolutely no symptoms. sharing sensitive information, make sure youre on a federal 14 Months After Thyroidectomy. My dr was booked until late February and I was freaking out so I went to the ER. On Sept 7th did follow up scan and 1 definite lymphnode lit up in an obscure location, so then was ordered for AG, AGant, and full neck ultrasound (WISH THEY HAD DONE ALL THAT EARLIER). Reinforced what surgeon said, that thyroid replacement should be high after total thyroidectomy. She explained, again, that the surgery before me had become unusually complicated and apologized for the wait. Even one of the nurses asked if I'd had the midazolam yet and the anesthesiologist said, yes. Health care providers perform thyroidectomy to treat thyroid disorders. After hours emergency: A/Professor Miller's mobile - emergency only please. Thyroid cancer support group and discussion community. I hate the word goiter. The mass was softball size and the cancerous tumor was 4.8 cm follicular cancer with hurthle cell varient, since August 2012 I have had a partial thyroidectomy, TT 2 weeks later, RAI 157 mc October 17th, modified neck dissection Nov. 27th and now it's the waiting from blood test to body scans and getting the meds adjusted just right, a lot of side effects with Levothyroxin. I visited her in the hospital on the 18th she was looking real worn out that day, but by the 19th when I took Sylvia there she was doing much better. Take care everyone, and to those with surgeries coming up I wish you all the very best. Once I heard that I was really happy. Has anyone struggled with breathing issues post TT? #1. As my health slowly improves I am starting out my workout regimen again and slowly building my strength back. Some people are put on T4 when they leave the hospital. I will say the fear I experienced made everything seem like a breeze following the surgery. She kind of blew me off although she did do a thyroid TSH test and it was "normal". Neck /throat tightness and pressure Total Thyroidectomy 16 . That was where the majority of my swelling was, this corresponds to about where the top of the thyroid was.
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