A few days later they caught up with the slaves, still in Indian Territory. Many Creeks joined the Cherokee searchers. At the time that the interviews were conducted, the Vanns had been gone from Georgia for more than 100 yearsconsequently none of the slaves the Vanns owned in Spring Place were still alive. But about the home--it was a double-room log house with a cooling-off space between the rooms, all covered with a roof, but no porch, and the beds was made of planks, the table of pine boards, and there was never enough boxes for the chairs so the littlest children eat out of a tin pan off the floor. That was sort of vault, where the family valuables was kept. John Trader U Wa Ni Vann family tree Parents Holesqua Chief Cornstalk Vann 1628 - 1740 Sarah Ann Champion 1665 - Unknown Spouse (s) Mary Wa' Li' Cherokee King-vann 1690 - 1770 However, the following narrative by the ex-slave, Cornelius Neely Nave, contains correct family relationships. Cherokee Vann. Dey come to de house one time when he was gone to Fort Smith and us children told dem he was at Honey Springs, but they knowed better and when he got home he said somebody shot at him and bushwhacked him all the way from Wilson's Rock to dem Wildhorse Mountains, but he run his horse like de devil was sitting on his tail and dey never did hit him. Master Joe was sure a good provider, and we always had plenty of corn pone, sow belly and greens, sweet potatoes, cowpeas and cane molasses. We left de furniture and only took grub and tools and bedding and clothes, cause they wasn't very big wagons and was only single-yoke. In one month you have to get back. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. I dunno her other name. They wanted everybody to know we was Marster Vann's slaves. He had one brother and eight sisters. Hams cakes, pies, dresses, beads, everything. Upon being brought to Fort Gibson, five slaves were held to stand trial for murdering the two bounty hunters. My father was born in Tahlequah just about where the colored church stands on Depot Hill. He passed away on 21 Feb 1809 in Shot at Buffington Tavern, GA, USA. Chief passed away on month day 1777, at age 68 at death place. I raised eleven children just on de sweat of my hands and none of dem ever tasted anything dat was stole. Dey would come up in a bunch of about nine men on horses and look at all our passes, and if a negro didn't have no pass dey wore him out good and made him go home. Then I had clean ward clothes and I had to keep them clean, too! In the morning we got up early, made a fire, and made a big pot of coffee. Mammy and pappy belong to W.P. Correction Note: The preceding comments by the interviewer incorrectly depicts the relationship between the family members. She dye with copperas and walnut and wild indigo and things like dat and made pretty cloth. They could have anything they wanted. I got all my money and fine clothes from the marster and the missus. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. That mean't she want a biscuit with a little butter on it. The last one was named for Hubbard Ross; he was related to Chief John Ross and was some kin to Daniel Nave, my father's master. Joseph Vann was born February 11, 1798 near Springplace in the Cherokee Nation (now Georgia) the son of James Vann and Nancy Brown. After everything quiet down and everything was just right, we come back to territory second time. Joseph Vann (1798-abt.1844) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree He died in Sussex, Sussex County, Virginia, on January 22, 1780. Dey was all wid the south, but dey was a lot of dem Pin Indians all up on de Illinois River and dey was wid de North and dey taken it out on de slave owners a lot before de War and during it too. The place was all woods, and the Cherokees and the soldiers all come down to see the baptizing. Pappa named Charley Nave; mamma's name was Mary Vann before she marry and her papa was Talaka Vann, one of Joe Vann's slave down around Webber's Falls. When he get home he call my uncle and ask about what we done all day and tell him what we better do de next day. (Curator dvb Note: VAn Zant County was created in 1848 9 years after the death of John Bowles and the name used today, from the division of the larger Henderson County. By January 31, 2023 how many ultimate warrior's were there. Young Master Vann never very hard on us and he never whupped us, and ole Mistress was a widow woman and a good Christian and always kind. People just go and help themselves, till they couldn't eat no mo! He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky and back. Joseph Vann is listed in the Cherokee census of 1835 as a resident of the Cherokee nation within the chartered limits of Hamilton County, Tennessee, his family consisting of fifteen persons. I would stay around about a week and help em and dey would try to git me to take something but I never would. At night dem trundles was jest all over the floor, and in de morning we shoved em back under de big beds to git dem outn' de way. Actually, the Assistant Principal Chief was Joseph "Tenulte" Vann, son of Avery Vann and probably a cousin of "Rich Joe" Vann. He was called by his contemporaries "Rich Joe" and many legends of his wealth ware still told among the Cherokees. 1746, and died July 16, 1839 in Van Zant County, Texas. One day young Master come to the cabins and say we all free and cant' stay there lessn we want to go on working for him just like we'd been for our feed, an clothes. In 1837 ptior to the main Cherokee Removal, he transported a few hundred Cherokee men, women, children, slaves and horses aboard a flotilla of flat boats to Webber's Falls on the Arkansas River in Indian Territory. sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robert James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) (James Wahli Vann Etc. After the explosion someone found an arm up in a tree on the bank of the river. Chief Joseph David VANN passed awayon 1844in in boat race on Ohio River, Indiana. Sometime Young Master Joe and the other boys give me a piece of money and say I worked for it, and I reckon I did for I have to cook five or six times a day. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days to go to Fort Gibson. On his extensive plantation some 800 acres were under cultivation. It was Dont Call the Roll, Jesus, Because Im Coming Home. The only song I remember from the soldiers was: Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree, and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. Joseph Vann inherited the "Diamond Hill" estate from his father and from him he also inherited the ability for trading by which he increased his fortune to a fabulous size. He had black eyes and mustache but his hair was iron gray, and everybody like him because he was so good natured and kind. Malone, Henry Thompson, Cherokees of the Old South: A People in Transition, University of Georgia Press, (1956), ISBN 0670034207. When the Indians decided to return home for reinforcements, the slaves started moving again toward Mexico. Everything was stripedy cause Mammy like to make it fancy. 'Trader' Vann John Edward /Vann/ Born in 1690 - Nansemond, Colonial Virginia Deceased 4 April 1770 - Bertie, North Carolina, United States,aged 80 years old Interpreter, Linquister, Indian Trader, Indian Trader in Ninety-Sixth District, SC Parents William Vann 1663-1740 Sarah Sukie Cornstalk Oocaneechi 1667-1706 Family Tree Profile Timeline John B. I spent happy days on the Harnage plantation going squirrel hunting with the master---he was always riding, while I run along and throw rocks in the trees to scare the squirrels so's Marse John could get the aim on them; pick a little cotton and put it in somebody's hamper (basket) and run races with other colored boys to see who would get to saddle the masters horse, while the master would stand laughing by the gate to see which boy won the race. Had sacks and sacks of money. The big House was a double log wid a big hall and a stone chimney but no porches, wid two rooms at each end, one top side of de other. Charles Thompson Susie Taylor. Phebe Vann 1798-1840. A bunch of us who was part Indian and part colored, we got our bed clothes together some hams and a lot of coffee and flour and started to Mexico. Perdue, Theda, "The Conflict Within: The Cherokee Power Structure and Removal," Georgia Historical Quarterly, 73 (Fall, 1989), pp. "We'd say "Come on buffalo", and it would come to us. Helizikinopo was born in 1715, in Pennsylvania, Somerset, Pennsylvania, United States. Sometimes us children would try to follow her, but she'd turn us around pretty quick and chase us back with: "Go on back to the house or the wolves get you.". They taken some of their slaves with them. Pappa got the soldier fever from being in the War; no, I don't mean like the chills and fever, but just a fever to be in the army, I guess for he joined the regular U.S. Army after a while, serving five years in the 10th Cavalry at Fort Sill during the same time John Adair of Tahelquah and John Gallagher of Muskogee was in the army. Clarinda Vann and my aunt Maria turned the keys to the vault and commissary. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. Them Pins was after Master all de time for a while at de first of de War, and he was afraid to ride into Ft. Smith much. We told him bout de Pins coming for him and he just laughed. My mammy was a Crossland Negro before she come to belong to Master Joe and marry my pappy, and I think she come wid old Mistress and belong to her. Joseph Vann married a Cherokee woman called Wah-li about 1765. The grandson reported that the Vann Family lived in that house until "the War," when some 3,000 federal troops descended upon Webbers Falls. Vann Name Meaning & Vann Family History at Ancestry.com They get something they need too. The slave cabins was in a row, and we lived in one of them. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. See other search results for Joseph Vann Search for yourself and we'll build your family tree together Top record matches for Joseph Vann JOhn DANd VANn found in 1851 England Census chief joseph vann family tree. The impressive house reportedly stood on a plantation of nearly 600 acres which was tended by some 400 black slaves "Rich Joe" Vann owned. Red Hawk Vann, born 1738 - Ancestry We went down to the river for baptizings. Chief Joseph Vann Family Tree Check All Members List The big house was made of log and stone and had big mud fireplaces. The grandson reported that the Vann Family lived in that house until "the War," when some 3,000 federal troops descended upon Webbers Falls. Son of Di-Ga-Lo-Hi 'James' "Crazy Chief Vann and Go-sa-du-i-sga Nancy Timberlake James Vann (abt.1766-1809) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree Oh the news traveled up and down the river. My father was a carpenter and blacksmith as well as race-horse man and he wanted to make money. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder. Everybody had a good time. He passed awayon 21 Feb 1809in Northern Georgia, Buffington's Tavern, Spring Place. John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann - Ancestry Lord, Yes! In slavery time the Cherokee negroes do like anybody else when they is a death---jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. Person Interviewed: Betty Robertson Location: Fort Gibson, Oklahoma Age: 93 I was born close to Webbers Falls, in the Canadian District of the Cherokee Nation, in the same year that my pappy was blowed up and killed in the big boat accident that killed my old Master. The most terrible thing that ever happen was when the Lucy Walker busted and Joe got blew up. Dat was one poor negro dat never go away to de North and I was sorry for him cause I know he must have had a mean master, but none of us Sheppard negroes, I mean the grown ones, tried to get away. We had bonnets that had long silk tassels for ties. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. Below New Albany, the vessel blew up when one or more boilers blew up, killing the majority of the passengers and among them the owner and captain. Run it to the bank! but it sunk and him and old Master died. Some of the Masters family was always going down to the river and back, and every time they come in I have to fix something to eat. There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. We put all the bed clothes on its back. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. He was accidentally killed in the explosion of one of his boats, the "Lucy Walker" which was blown up near Louisville, Kentucky on October 26, 1844. Lots of soldiers around all the time though. James Vann, Chief 1809 Nancy Ann Timberlake Brown 1780-1850 Spouses and children Married, Georgia., USA, to Elizabeth Catherine Rowe 1798- with Living Vann Clarinda Rebecca Vann ca 1817- Delia Vann 1834- James Vann Mary Frances Vann 1825-1923 Siblings Mary Vann 1795-1864 Joseph Rich Joe Vann 1798-1844 Half-siblings Single girls waited on the tables in the big house. She had some land close to Catoosa and some down on Greenleaf Creek. John Thompson. They never sent us anywhere with a cotton dress. Chief James Clement Vann family tree Parents John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann 1735 - 1815 Wahli Wa-wli Aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan 1751 - 1815 Spouse (s) And we had corn bread and cakes baked every day. Everybody laugh and was happy. Chief married Martha Peggy Vann, Thompson, Mayes (born McNair (rozena Vann)) in 1824, at age 23 at marriage place. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the Negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to old Master Joe. Den I went to a subscription school for a little while, but didn't get much learning. Vinita was the closeset town to where I was born; when I get older seem like they call it "the junction" on account the rails cross there, but I never ride on the trains, just stay at home. My mother Betsy Vann, worked in the big house for the missus. Historian Gilbert C. DIN wrote; "James Logan COLBERT, a Scotsman and trader, began residence among the Chickasaw before 1740, when he was about the age of twenty.". There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. We git three or four crops of different things out of dat farm every ear, and something growing on dat place winter and summer. Bornin Cherokee Nationon 27 Aug 1767to Joseph Vannand War-Li(MaryPolly) Cherokee-Clan-Blind-Savannah. There was big parties and dances. Coming out of the army for the last time, Pappa took all the family and moved to Fort Scott, Kansas, but I guess he feel more at home wid the Indians for pretty soon we all move back, this time to a farm near Fort Gibson. After the old time rich folks die, them that had their money buried, they com back and haunt the places where it is. Mammy died in Texas, and when we left Rusk County after the Civil War, pappy took us children to the graveyard. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie. Their slaves also helped build the nearby Moravian mission and school in Spring Place. The following year, Joseph Vann and several of his black rebels died in the explosion of his steamboat Lucy Walker during a race on the Ohio River. Because I'se so little, Missus Jennie took me into the Big house and raised me. Two year old when my mamma died so I remember nothing of her, and most of my sisters and brothers dead too. Chief James Ti-ka-lo-hi Vann, Cr.
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