Theres a difference. Also, when everyone is in the same office you can note that the cheese and cracker spread lasted all day while the lemon bars vanished in an hourwith remote people you arent getting the same visual feedback about what was a widely appealing choice and what flopped. . I looked up his AIM screen name because I didnt know what it meant and if it was a reference to something I wanted to know what it was so he would think I was cool. A lot of us make arts-related posts on our personal social media accounts, which are mostly followed by other people in the arts. Better yet, come back and say it was so good everyone should go. Id be perfectly happy myself with a gift card to a nearby (by rural standards) pizza place and go pick it up myself. Yes, theres stuff that other people put up. Of course that doesnt help when Fergus hasnt updated his address in the database, or Fergusina forgets to mention shes now Fergusina Ferguson-Gerhardt now. Also a huge factor with companies that work with or for government agencies in other ways; I work for a company that competes for projects large and small with private companies and government agencies at all levels, and we have extremely strict rules against receiving (or giving) anything of value not only to current or potential clients, but also current or potential subcontractors, or current or potential suppliers and/or vendors. . ) Yes. Havent actually bothered to track them down, though.). There are now state-wide and local bans about asking for previous salary because it perpetuates pay disparities. LinkedIn, Facebook, etc. If someone is looking for just superficial stuff with I think curious is a better word. There are professional reasons to be a bit curious. And even proving youre the owner of the house and removing the pics (like you can on Zillow) doesnt mean there wont be pics of your house on other sites like Redfin or crossposted from other real estate sites. I was trained as a police dispatcher and it was a criminal offense to snoop into peoples files without a specific purpose. Yeah, my in-laws used to send us a gift card to Harris Teeter for our anniversary every year. So yeh on the gift card kinda thing. No see thats creepy. Honestly, the only times Ive ever felt bummed by it have been the rare times that its been a big thank you thing that they kept secret and, had I known, I would have come in for. #1 reminded me of a tricky situation I was in a couple years ago. Go read Wireds recent article about Google. This is still not a great analogy because someone wearing a cow costume under their clothes is certainly more out of place than the mundane info that is available on the internet about people/coworkers. And that is the kind of curiosity that makes for a nightmare coworker. Its not like the internet reads your mind and sends you the whole internet history of your co-workers (yet). Not so much anymore with the new rules in place at most clinics. (The cake pops are amazing.) Some of us are curious to get a sense of new coworkers. And in those cases, these were all public before the internet: newpaper articles, magazine articles, county records, even name and address. If a company is doing appropriate checks theyll get your salary information from your previous job at some point (if they really want it, itll be earlier in the process rather than later). The amount of rigid, all-or-nothing thinking in this comment section is frustrating (not the person Im responding to specifically, but in general). So, if someone puts an early job on their LinkedIn, I think it would be a little weird but OK if a new colleague said, Oh, I was looking at your LinkedIn, and you worked at Company X years ago. Would be super common in academia, as youll have papers out ( and probably a professional Twitter feed, too, where you repost snarky things about funding, continue any feuds with rival academics, and occasionally something about your area), Also, we once found someone we were considering collaborating with had a horribly racist Twitter feed, and killed the collaboration. Im sure you can find a better company for you. Having the wrong opinions about the wrong coworker might result in rather significant harassment and abuse. Practically everything on social media is posted with express permission from the user. I was curious who I was going to be working with. I dont care what they get up to personally, but professionally its useful what was their trajectory, what kinds of projects did they work on, etc. And then you have all of the hacks and data breaches that leave peoples data exposed. It may be shorter wait to go inside. Same here. Im in a job with some pretty hefty commute times, so a lot of us dont live in the city where the job is. The problem with this is that there can be plenty of things online about someone that they didnt actually post themselves and dont want shared. He just wanted us to go away. In my state, marriage records, divorce records, and property ownership (including purchase price!) Yeah, thats a standard step in buying a house. plus you get to choose the toppings (roasted eggplant! Maybe consider adding something similar so the community-building aspect is included and not just the free food. I dont consider myself in regular danger from such groups, I am not likely to be the first targeted, but it certainly changed my perspective on whether I would go to a second location with him. Its totally possible that this organization is just a poor fit, but maybe theres some feedback you can learn from in this crappy experience, too. You didnt understand that when you were 14 and posting your entire life under your real name on Livejournal or MySpace? That is disgusting and wrong, but it isnt because I put it out there, and I cannot take it down. Store, MinuteClinic and Distribution Center Colleagues: Use 7-digit Employee ID and password. Keeping your reading focused on professional material is a good boundary, but not all Twitter feeds, LinkedIn profiles, blogs, etc. And its a good thing I didabout a month into the internship, she wrote a lengthy unflattering post about a client of ours, using their full name and the name of their project. Signing forms at the front desk was always stocked with pens from reps years ago. But we can at least maintain the illusion of privacy, and that is almost as valuable. Similarly, if youre starting a business and file for a sole proprietorship, LLC or other type of corporation, you have to post your name and the name of the business in the local newspaper. Because they looked something up that is publicly available? Or have ever been arrested as Florida man. Or might be involved in any seamy court cases they are right to side eye you. But people will really appreciate you occasionally doing something for them as well. IDGAF really what they are online, what matters is how they interact with me every day at work. Eh, unfortunately this only hurts the lowly HR drone who has to process all those disclosures, not the higher ups making the policy. It would have never occurred to me to google any of them and these letters are eye-opening. I recently had an interview at a -. You do not get to claim that your privacy was somehow violated, or that someone is being a creep, for seeing you on CNN, during your public broadcast, intended for billions of people, on a site specifically and EXPRESSLY designed for the purpose of broadcasting what you choose to put out there. And yes it would irritate me to think someone is googling me to figure out what kind of experience I have with something. Its ridiculous. Me neither. If they are looking for information on my butter carving competitions, thats over the line. Being a 250 lb giant hunk of muscle isnt protected, but it certainly wouldnt be fair not to hire him based on that characteristic. You probably shouldnt do that, and if you do you shouldnt be shocked if someone finds them. Be very careful in looking a social media in hiring, because you might unintentionally learn things that should not be taken into account in hiring, and that could be risky for the entity. What they really want is plausible deniability. colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs That is on a whole other level. Same thing as a society we determined that the sale of land, the lot lines of property, how much taxes people pay, should all be public info. I regularly do this sort of snooping on coworkers, healthcare providers, etc. Posting on social media is like going on camera, live on the air, on CNN. They dont stop. Mike Monteiro has told a story of people being added to a Facebook group without consent, implying or reveal the status of their sexuality. Its all risk and no reward. how do I avoid mom energy with my younger employees? If I am having a conversation with people and someone says I wonder xyz and a phone/computer is not readily available I will come back a week later and say remember your xyz question well here is the answer. It seems totally normal to me. (Im thinking arts, academia, etc). It sucks. I would cringe so hard at telling someone that wed reimburse them for lunch as a perk but I see the thought behind it at least. Agreed. To continue with your analogy, I think think asking the person wearing the costume would be the same as asking a coworker directly about certain information. We just had to send her the receipt. However, one mainstay of most campus jobs here is the occasional departmental pizza party. Its up there with giving out coupons for buy one get one in company gift bags for the holidays. colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs. How to Deal with a Snooping Coworker - Career Trend If I did an interview on CNN six weeks ago, it would be silly of me to be shocked that people had seen it. All the way from 19th century (and earlier) formal letters of introduction to Im doing that with Fergus Smith from ACME, can you take care of the paperwork. I still usually use screennames that cant be easily traced back to me, and people were way more intense about it back in the aughts when we all thought posting your real name on the internet meant a crazed murderer would instantly show up outside your house. End up in a new story? Wonder if hell coach on of our teams this year?). They pop up like flies. Many people see it as a normal thing. I think there might be more to it. I think the rule to follow here is that if youre uncomfortable talking to a colleague in person about it, you shouldnt be looking it up online. Ill add a line to the post clarifying that. She was divorced. Totally normal. But dont default to Starbucks! But to then look them up on Facebook, notice their URL is a kind of username, look THAT up on Twitter, see they tweeted about home buying woes, go look up county records to find their address and go look at their house listing on Zillow etc. I googled herusing first, middle, and last name, all of which were fairly unique. This became a bugbear of the regional staff as obviously they couldnt partake, but would get the email regardless. It almost seems to me like walking out in public in a cow costume and then expecting people not to stare at you. My old manager told a reference checker what my salary was. The nurse looked up records for patients assigned to herself, or to another nurse - but did not have a treatment reason to view the records. Its part of so-called public records, but its still none of anybodys gd business, and they will only use it to age discriminate. Uh, no, Im just trying to do my job well. If youre trying to find out everything about their life, thats over the line. Im in a little rural spot on the map about an hour away and there is no such thing as delivery out here. I work in an age-sensitive industry where if youre a women over 40 youre a dinosaur so I removed myself from almost all of the people search sites and have my social media pretty locked down so she tells people that I must have deep secrets because she cant find anything about me. And the question of whether its too nosy is irrelevant to the point of absurdity. In some industries even as sandwich can be too much when it comes from a vendor. I work remotely 3x per week. So, I googled a coworker with a more senior title than me. The idea that people actually *genuinely believe* that saying, Googling me is bad manners and you shouldnt do it is utterly laughable. Solved 5)CVS Health prohibits giving anything of value to a - Chegg The first is a little nosy but not outrageously out of line; the second is just plain creepy to do to someone youre not living with or hiring. Or anything that comes up in a google search under their name? Well, a post like that should be something that an employer CAN follow up on. Not to make assumptions but the tone of a few of the things in LW3 raised an eyebrow and if thats how they are presenting themselves around the office I could see why things arent going well. A few years after I graduated, they built a website and mined old hard drives to upload all articles from the previous decade to it. I would never say it out loud, and wouldnt hold it against the remote worker, but Id be a little annoyed if I got a couple slices of pizza to eat in a conference room or at my desk while a remote worker got a $20 GrubHub card. Make sure the card image you upload in the app includes your bin/grp/pcn/and member ID numbers. We have to reframe our thinking around it so its not such a major deal. You cant forget things you learn about people but you still have to work with them. These are small items that almost certainly fall beneath any you cant accept/must report gifts of over $X rules your company has (although you can check that to be sure). One person in particular got very angry about it and claimed it was a way of head office excluding regional staff. Input from the loyal commenter brigade is also appreciated. Do I have to go inside to change my insurance information? : r/CVS - Reddit Think of it in a more generic sense, like youre getting to know them, not that youre interviewing them for a job. So I would let it go for now, but then the next time youre going to use her as a reference, give her a heads up that she may be getting a call and also let her know that youre keeping your former salary confidential. Its a way to learn more about someone when you may be too nervous to approach them or you just dont have a close enough relationship with them to ask for their life story. The other thing that individualizes responses is whats actually out there on the internet about you. Over the line. The HR professional then dug deeper into what was going on and the history of my role, apologized profusely for the unproductive way my team was transitioned to this new Director, seemed appropriately appalled by my treatment, then left and never spoke to me again until the meeting where I was transitioned to a new layer of management. Yes, its reality, but we shouldnt accept it. The delivery guy called and said, Im at 123 Main Street, and theres nothing here but a bank, and the boss said, No, 123 Main Street should be the Springfield Building, and the delivery guy said, Im not in Springfield, Im in Spring Green.), what about a $10 prepaid visa card periodically? Absolutely. You are LITERALLY cultivating an online collection of data about yourself! A few months later, I had a meeting involving Mike, and got a really bad vibe from him (besides being rude, ironically racisist and condescending, he reminded me of an ex who assaulted me) and googled him. If you do a quick search of someones name and check out their LinkedIn profile, theres nothing wrong with reading it. I dont share your experiences but there are party pictures with me that I didnt know was posted until much later. Like if I found out they had a restraining order against them or multiple arrests or something. Usenet existed decades before the World Wide Web. Which of the following are examples of accessing information without a business purpose? Not as bad as some of their past changes, and people knew that something was coming so it was a little more possible to protect yourself, but still. So I googled him. One caveat: Make sure the place you get a gift card to actually delivers to the home of the worker. We make safe shipping arrangements for your convenience from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. In this case, our OP didnt put it out there. You may want to re-evaluate this person as a reference. Love it! In some places its not considered appropriate small talk stater. Not a stalking a resume to avoid talking to someone situation. And When you install this update, it will send alerts to everyone in your contacts about what song youre listening to and webpage youre looking at RIGHT NOW! Omigod turn that off. But you people said you wanted to use the web to connect.. I think the snoopy coworker was beyond horrid, but if the information is publicly available, its public. What is an acceptable amount of internet research/snooping around on new coworkers? What that LWs coworker did (gee, it would be a shame if the whole office found out you got arrested) was worse. And occasionally to search for stuff to satisfy curiosity (like whether a couple has broken up or whether a former coworker is still at the new job). public profiles in LinkedIn. Like, who has the same email they had in the 1980s? The internet makes it frighteningly easy to acquire vast amounts of info on nearly anybody, and unless youre foolish enough to talk about it, nobody will know you did it. @pleaset, good perspective and Im glad you posted this. I think its fair to say that someone who has a website called http://www.MyName.com *wants* people to look at it. I mean, they have to be better than pineapple! I dont know, I think that there can be times when youre a normal level of curious about another person but there isnt a good time/reason to ask them to go into it. Id rather my current co-workers not read my sex advice column and all the partying tips I wrote as a contributor to the Culture section of a very liberal paper. Agreed. Nosey is pejorative. Ill have to try that. Before I made my phone number private, I used to get calls all the time for people with the same first & last name as me. If it doesn't at least have bin, pcn, and member ID, it's not your pharmacy insurance card (exept tricare) and you can save that card for the dentist/drs office. Some people are going to be bold enough to ask or try to get a closer look, on the theory that its showing and therefore not meant to be private, and a lot more are going to find it incredibly rude to do anything but ignore it. You are also missing something extremely important context. Google tends to be a problem with this. You have the right to disagree with it or even find it creepy. Motivation and depth of research make a big difference, though. These are great and productive reasons to look someone up. People are acting like posting on social media is equivalent to having a private telephone call. My coworkers are not interesting enough and I have better things to do with my time. But maybe you will understand now. I might not reference it to the candidate or hiring partner, but it helps me guide the interview process. If you Google me, you can find out that I experienced [insert awful family tragedy here, e.g., my father killed my mother in a murder-suicide]. OP2: Layoffs suck, Im sorry you had to go through that. If you Google the names of my published papers, you will. That is why it gets reported on the news, why arrest records, police blotter, criminal court proceedings are made public. I think AAM defined it nicely. But it would never occur to me to feel like Im missing out on pizza. That may involve multiple layers of googling. If youre searching for info on their personal life, thats an overstep (and probably in no way relevant to your work with them). I think the point Im trying to make is that snooping like that can open up subconscious bias about personal life, and that shouldnt matter unless it will affect their professional life. Vinhomes Green Bay > Kin trc p > colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs. If you google Jellybean Uniqueforeignname, youll see someone with an identical name who was part of a public police investigation. Youre making yourself willfully ignorant by not acknowledging that its wrong to do this and then judge people based on something private they didnt necessarily want to share, but its out there anyway. Especially if you find something embarassing or unflattering about the person. Sometimes theyll ask you to provide a W2, but thats not to check how much you made; its because the company didnt respond to the employment verification request. Whatever. I have a feeling they will agree with us. With the blog post in play I can see it, butif the team has someone who never feels safe around men of certain races, you are going to invite problems and that person *honestly gets a threatening vibe* from them *because of the internalized bias*they could be honest, well-meaning, and still a racism problem for your team. manager to the hiring manager during reference checking. If you can see the truth of that in the people at the table next to you in a restaurant, then you can see the truth of that online as well. It just is. The folks who think that Googling someones professional info are really confusing me. Youd think. dis v57 free download. Shes still there and I am gone. I think back then if you didnt want your phone number and address to appear in the phone book you could pay to have your information unlisted. Someone else mentioned that their twitter got hacked and it was posting various pornographic content. OP5, I work for a pretty small charity, so its probably not a surprise to hear that when us remote folks miss something like free food, we dont get something even occasionally sent to make up for it. Parle vous that experience into a better fit. She has no idea what we do and ignored us for the first three years, despite my repeated attempts to schedule meetings with her. But the phone book example is a good one. So not only am I at the mercy of those other departments when it comes time to review my work, but I get zero credit for or acknowledgment of all of the important things I actually do. Its the current year, everyone knows that if you publish it online, the internet never forgets.. That instantly cured me of Googling people out of idle curiosity, especially coworkers that I have to see every day. Society as a whole has determined that making those kinds of transactions public serve a legitimate societal interest, same with marriage, divorce, criminal records. My Facebook doesnt even show up in Google searches. Ive looked up colleagues on LinkedIn, but thats what that platform is for. My sense from the last few was that they were fairly remedial and targeting inexperienced managers, and so I wondered if there was a particular skill gap you hoped Id focus on.. If I went on a date with someone and thought it might go somewhere, for example. They still show up though. apple watch series 5 speaker replacement. Agreed. There could also be many more reasons for the training and restructuring without assuming bad intent. a. aquatic b. volcanic c. land d. sea. Just because Im in public in a park, would it be OK for someone to set up a microphone to catch what I said, add it to a searchable database with my name and location tagged, and keep it online forever? is it unprofessional to get a tattoo on a work trip? However, if I lug home 27 pieces of swag (pens, tiny foam mascot) from the trade show I spent 10 hour days at, Id be irritated if HR had to approve my keeping it. There are levels of publicly broadcast, though. are all public. NOT because its ok to do these deep dives. And for those of us who are living in a time and place where its not necessarily safe to tell people about who we are in a get to know you conversation, I sure as hell am going to check on people before opening up too much to them, at least to the extent Im able to by what they choose to say about themselves on the internet.
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